This is the 666th article. That is so fitting. AAAAAAAAAA42 14:08, July 22, 2010 (UTC)AAAAAAAAAA42

His true Identity Edit

Is Lord English That's about it. He is not John, or Bec noir, or even Karkat's gladiatorial ancestor. Lord English is, always has been, and always will be, Lord English. He is not someone we have met, and he is not someone we are going to meet. Any chance of us actually meeting him at any point in the comic is extremely low. His sole purpose was as an antagonist alongside the felt for the midnight crew during the intermission. and with exception to snowman and Scratch, both of which are constructs of the game, none of the felt nor English have no interest or involvement with the game. (With exception to English eating the universe frogs after they have died, but that’s it.)

Quite simply, English is not a major antagonist, he is not the ultimate goal of the game, he is just a force of nature like any other, content on fiddling around on worlds that have already had the game attack it and eating dead universes. Yes, he may appear in or have some effect on the comic as a whole (but again, unlikely) but until that time, he is neither a major nor an important character. As of the comic as it is /right now/ Lord English is simply a minor character of equal or lesser relevance to the plot as fedorafreak.

I would also like to point out that none of this is speculation, merely fact which I have observed as of writing. He may appear, yes. He may become important, yes. But as of this moment he has not, and he is not. And (i think at least) people should stop trying to identify him as one of the mortals we have already met, as doing so is nothing but speculation.

Really you believe we will never meet on of the most important characters, really.

OF corse i beleive we will meet the important characters. and we allready have. It's just that lord english is not an important character at this time. he might be in the future, but as of now he is not.

A horrorterror Edit

Is there any chance that Lord English may be a very high ranking Horrorterror? This is supported by the fact that he is a demon (A horror terror) that is beyond time (The realm that the horror terrors occupy has shown to also do this). This would also explain why they hold the server that will summon him. 71.49.89.113 04:13, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

I actually agree with you and I put the Horrorterrors under "the felt" category a while ago. However, I agree with those that would say we have little proof. Loverdesang 04:24, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

I thought of this as well, it would seem somehow fitting. Saddly, the evidence is slim at best so it is just a speculation. Nimryel 07:56, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hands Edit

Where does the info on LE's hands come from? I can't see them anywhere. R8.50Mango 21:41, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

"He is now presumed to be a mutated form of Doc Scratch, as seen at the beginning of Intermission 2." Edit

Maybe it was just me but to me it seemed as though he was using Doc Scratch's body a channel for his body to materialise through. Of course we'll probably learn more later that makes it clear. The Light6 07:02, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm almost sure "HONK" should not be the caption for Lord English. Edit

Shouldn't it be something akin to "HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO OUTRUN ME WHEN I AM ALREADY HERE?", despite the fact that it's been referenced to death? "HONK" doesn't exactly tell us much about him. 70.29.89.200 01:22, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's been done - I also fixed the previous user's edit, which had included unsightly "USER BLAH" tags. Ashdenej 16:53, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

This page is an eyesore. Edit

I'm going to attempt to clean it up in a little bit. Cephalgia 00:35, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

You should have waited for a consensus before removing all of the formatted links. The point is, we have every mention of members of The Felt formatted because MSPA has every mention of their names formatted. In other words, the implication is that the formatting is an intrinsic part of their names.

I won't revert your edit outright, simply because it looks like you also tidied up the rest of the page while you were at it, and there's no sense in reverting that, because it's constructive. But if there is not a consensus to remove the formatted links (with due consideration to whether the formats are intrinsic), they will need to be put back.

So, discussion, people? -- Sorceror Nobody, 13:26, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

That's why I didn't flat out revert it either but yeah the formatting should be restored, however I guess now would be a good of time as any to bring up one thing: Doc Scratch is frequently referred to as just Scratch for short, likewise Lord English is referred to as English for short. Perhaps an extra templates should be added to accommodate the short versions of their names. One of the things being described as an eyesore I presume was all the gifs in the Lord part of Lord English, if he was listed mostly as English that would solve most of the gif/eyesore problem. The Light6 13:37, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Got all the speculation and stupidity out. 72.93.251.221 20:50, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Calliope's Brother Edit

Moved to Forum:uu = English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Light6 (talk • contribs)

Broken "tabber" scriptEdit

Something seems to be breaking the Tabber script responsible for the it's infobox's grouping of English's images within tabs. This does nothing to the article itself, although both clutters and opens the article to further issues in future. Can anypony determine it's cause; I see no reason why this won't display as is. --ImpliedFibre (talk) 05:37, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid you might need to be a little clearer on the issue, I just looked at the old version of the page and it looks fine to me. The Light6 (talk) 06:22, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the poor description, I assumed this issue was affecting all users. As you probably definately already know, articles of complex characters have generally opted to show not a single image in their infobox, but a javascript-based "tabber" allowing the the user to select the desired image from a collection of tabs; something which I personally believe to have given articles a clean and professional feel. For whatever reason, placing it on the page of a certain Cherub seems to be giving a rather unique result when compared to other pages; clumsily generating a few separate div boxes beneath eachother. All of these div boxes contain the images intended to be "merged" under one seperate tabs respectively instead, seemingly aligned the the left. No tab is appearing, instead two seperate images of a certain someone beneath one and other. I've tested the page in both Chrome (under both native Linux and Windows) as well as Internet Explorer and the same result is given. This (probably) suggests the issue is something server based, specifically something breaking the script from within the LE page itself (possibly another script). I hope this helps, as I am having little luck working this out. --ImpliedFibre (talk) Edit: The tabber is "there" in both the page's wiki and HTML sources, as well matching those of other pages such as Jake English's, but isn't displaying. When "previewing" an edit, also, the tabber is shown correctly.

OK now that makes sense, I have seen what you're describing as the infoboxes appear that way for me briefly (like a second or two) when a page is loading. My best guess is for whatever reason the script won't fully load for you. I really have no idea why that would be. Hopefully someone with a better knowledge of such matters has an idea. The Light6 (talk) 10:12, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response, Light. Seeing as I am apparently among very few actually perceiving this error, the page is most likely displaying properly and without clutter to the majority; the error posing little problem to it's readers and thus of low priority in repairing. I think you're right in suggesting the script won't "fully load" though, perhaps slowed by an unknown bug in one of many unrelated scripts on the page. --ImpliedFibre (talk) Also, sorry for assuming you knew more about the script in question, "as you probably definately already know" reading more like an insult in retrospect than joke.

I've made a forum topic for this discussion: Forum:Tabber broken - The Light6 (talk) 02:55, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Alpha Jack Noir = Lord English Edit

I believe Jack Noir from the Alpha session is Lord English. Caliborn is currently possessing Jack Noir, and I noticed that while Caliborn's eyes do a swirling-hypnosis sort of pattern, Jack Noir's eyes begin to show billiards balls. Jack Noir also blasts energy out of his mouth, and has the gold pegleg unlike Caliborn.

This also explains [S] Caliborn: Enter. We, the reader, see both Caliborn and his supposed future-self Lord English acting at the same time. This can be reasoned as being that the moment Caliborn set those events in motion, it guaranteed Lord English would be a part of the timeline. The moment he was in the timeline, then anything he does has already happened, or will happen. From Caliborn's relative time, that would be Lord English fully transformed and killing ghosts.

TL,DR; I believe we will be seeing Jack Noir becoming Lord English, being controlled by Caliborn.

-Shawn Norton

99.246.179.188 20:49, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Well Caliborn = Lord English has been so exremely heaviely implied that it's questionable if there is any other possibility realy. However, I usually point to this quote when it comes to this discussion ":
uu: BuLLSHIT. I AM BASICALLY THE MASTER OF ALL RED HERRINGS. uu: THEY SWIM THROuGH MY VEINS. THIS WAY AND THAT.

So Jack =LE is unlikely, but still kinda possible I guess. Biggest plus of this theory is indeed the billiard eye thing. Also, for future reference, theorizing belongs in the wikia forum, namely the frog temple sub forum. Not on talk pages. bitterLime 20:59, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

More than extremely heavily, it's word of god-in-story.
<uu> MARK MY WORDS. WHOEVER YOU ARE. SOME DAY I WILL TRACK YOU DOWN. AND KILL YOU. <AH> You already did. <uu> LIAR. <AH> It's true. It already happened in like the quasi-future.
Lord English: not Jack.
Mystery solved.
86.201.127.173 00:05, February 9, 2013 (UTC)