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This is an archive of the Votes for Featured Articles from its inception in May 2012 up to September 2013, at which time a new system was implemented.

July 2012

Circumstantial simultaneity – Justification relegated to comments due to length -- Sorceror Nobody, 14:05, May 24, 2012 (UTC) Grist – Very informative, and looks pretty damn nice to boot -- Sorceror Nobody, 14:05, May 24, 2012 (UTC) --bitterLime 19:31, June 11, 2012 (UTC) Some Color Mage 12:06, June 17, 2012 (UTC) SC, Thief of Time 04:43, June 21, 2012 (UTC) Armageddon11 16:30, June 28, 2012 (UTC) Doc Scratch – massive amount of info, main character as well Chezrush 22:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC) --TheUltamate 00:12, June 10, 2012 (UTC) A good article on an important (and somewhat confusing) character --(BornOn413) 01:22, June 28, 2012 (UTC) --Aepokk Venset 02:48, June 28, 2012 (UTC) Comments Okay, so, my nominations. Yes, I know it says right there "one nomination per person". Making an exception here, just to kick things off. For circumstantial simultaneity, okay, yeah, I'm possibly biased, because I wrote almost all of it, but hear me out. It may not be a very long article, but it's concise and I think illustrates the concept reasonably well (especially given that the concept is stated to be not fully comprehensible). It's also a good example of an article that has exactly the right number of images. Could it have more added? Probably. Does it need more? Nope -- Sorceror Nobody, 14:05, May 24, 2012 (UTC) Comments edited due to having cleaned up the Grist page, 20:18, May 31, 2012 (UTC) When is the selection date? Chezrush 11:16, June 10, 2012 (UTC) End of the month. No sense in closing voting sooner than the article has to go up, ne? -- Sorceror Nobody, 19:17, June 11, 2012 (UTC) Voted for Grist, since it's a very basic concept and we recently improved the article quite alot. I kinda also like the idea of going through the two remaining post-scratch kids first, but apparently we tossed that idea?bitterLime 19:31, June 11, 2012 (UTC) Well, going through the kids was pretty much a remnant from the previous FA system. By which I mean there wasn't really a system. The point is that the FA should be about article quality – showing the wiki at its best – not just, "Oh, hey, this is a cool idea, let's run a theme". That said, there's certainly nothing to stop people nominating the other two kids, and there's still plenty of time for people to vote for them before the end of the month -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:40, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

Doc Scratch – Three people thought it was good last time. Arlo James Barnes 00:47, July 5, 2012 (UTC) Hemospectrum – Engaging and informative (BornOn413) 18:42, July 13, 2012 (UTC) SC, Thief of Time 04:36, July 27, 2012 (UTC) Aepokk Venset 05:53, July 27, 2012 (UTC) Dream self – Plenty of words and pictures that look well together, along with being interesting to read. Chezrush {Talk} 20:50, July 13, 2012 (UTC) Comments Debating whether to nominate Circumstantial Simultaneity again... hmm, FFWiki has a rule about no article being nominated two months in a row. I think we'll be less strict than that, but... I will add a similar rule now. Which will mean I can't nominate CS this month -- Sorceror Nobody, 14:57, July 5, 2012 (UTC) Okay, so, critique time. Hemospectrum... yeah, okay, it's a pretty good article, if subject to some controversy lately. But dream self is actually kind of poor. Most of the images are not relevant; we certainly should not have a column of them down one side of the page (note to self, get back to work on writing the MoS), and a gallery would probably be far more suitable for showing the kids' and trolls' dream selves, rather than cramping together two sets of four messily at the top. Also the page could do with a lot more links to HS pages than it has currently. So yeah, long story short, I personally think the dream self article is not up to standard at the moment -- Sorceror Nobody, 12:17, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

September 2012

Circumstantial simultaneity – No harm in nominating it again, same reasons as before -- Sorceror Nobody, 12:50, August 1, 2012 (UTC) Normally I would vote Dave, my favorite kid, but this is actually a good article, and quality > opinion. --SC, Thief of Time 01:38, August 2, 2012 (UTC) _☮__ƒelinoel___ 12:52, August 2, 2012 (UTC) Dave Strider - Main character, good amount of pictures, so freaking cool too. Chezrush {Talk} 20:17, August 1, 2012 (UTC) [[Ancestors]] - Really helpful article with tons of information, enough pictures too, and basically a clean and well-made article. Cakeosaurus (talk) 09:16, August 2, 2012 (UTC) Aepokk Venset 16:14, August 2, 2012 (UTC) 37.152.83.99 17:15, August 7, 2012 (UTC) Comments Note that Doc Scratch is not eligible for nomination this month -- Sorceror Nobody, 12:50, August 1, 2012 (UTC) Hey kids! It's that time again! SN critiques the FA nominations! *canned applause* Dave, hmm. At absolutely literal face value, I would say his page does indeed have a good number of pictures. The problem is that they are haphazardly placed, most lack captions, and they aren't always obviously pertinent to the section they end up next to. So that would need considerable tidying. I also count a grant total of ten MSPA links on his entire page (not counting the infobox), which is nowhere near adequate for a major character. It's not a bad article by any means, but it most certainly could be better. Ancestors. I tidied up Redglare and Mindfang's sections a little bit a while back. I've been meaning to give a similar treatment to the other ten. I should have a look at that in the next week or so, get it sorted in this quiet period before A6I3 hits us and makes more distractions. It certainly has the potential to be an excellent article once I, or someone else for that matter, give(s) it the once over with a broomkind editor specibus. Circumstantial simultaneity. Seriously? Which retard nominated that? Also I'm not sure how best to deal with the anon vote. We certainly don't have a rule against it, but it might count as less than a full vote if we're still tied on votes come the end of the month. I'll have to discuss that with my fellow staff -- Sorceror Nobody, 19:33, August 21, 2012 (UTC) I've now thoroughly broomed the Ancestors page. Image neatening, a lot of repeated links removed, and the trivia section split into two rather more useful headings. It could probably do with a couple of extra MSPA links, mind you. Anyone who wants to take care of that is welcome, and encouraged, to do so -- Sorceror Nobody, 17:00, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

October 2012

[[Ancestors]] – I did a fair bit of cleanup in preparation for it potentially being September's FA. That cleaned up state is still applicable this month :3 Also, October, oct, eight, eight letters, ancestor names... :P -- Sorceror Nobody, 10:34, September 1, 2012 (UTC) Comments No other candidates? SC, Thief of Time 20:12, September 16, 2012 (UTC) Nope, also that means you can't vote. The Light6 (talk) 07:55, September 17, 2012 (UTC) This is beginning to become a bit of a concern, frankly : / -- Sorceror Nobody, 19:39, September 24, 2012 (UTC) Does this mean that the [[Ancestors]] page will become the featured article by default? Patrorin (talk) 11:17, September 30, 2012 (UTC) I would have to say; yes. Hey, everyone else who paid a slight bit of attention to the voting this round has tried to vote for the ancestors, fairly sure not only is it winning by default, but by unofficial unanimous consent. The Light6 (talk) 11:22, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

November 2012

Skaia Aepokk Venset 21:52, October 10, 2012 (UTC) Comments Seriously going to need nominations this month -- Sorceror Nobody, 16:54, October 1, 2012 (UTC) how about post scratch earth? fitting for november (the whole 11 11 11 thing) and would animate people to read and therefore edit it. poor article doesnt have any pictures. --188.2.15.230 22:31, October 4, 2012 (UTC) I dunno... Lusus? I've always thought it's a well laid-out article. --NikLink (talk) 22:54, October 4, 2012 (UTC) Skaia? Lord English? Has Doc Scratch been nominated yet? Aepokk Venset 01:32, October 5, 2012 (UTC) Lusus, Skaia, English and Doc Scratch are all eligible for nomination this month, and I would therefore encourage people to nominate them if they wish (though I bet they all have things that could be tidied up). Post-Scratch Earth isn't an article (and probably should stay that way), but even if it were, it would need to be brought up to standard before being nominated -- Sorceror Nobody, 19:05, October 9, 2012 (UTC) Hell yeah it is. [[Post-scratch future Earth|post scratch ''future'' earth]] is, and thats totaly what i meant. if PSFE isnt standard enough then how about Betty Crocker? also fits the novermber theme, since she took over the world in november. btw, the rules say only 1 nomnation/vote per user.--188.2.15.230 22:27, October 9, 2012 (UTC) Ah, yes. Actually that does appear to be, content-wise, a decent article. It would definitely need some pertinent images, though, as it's currently a hideously drab monolith of text. Perhaps you would like to work on it. As for the rule, well, that's... not a problem? Because nobody has yet nominated any article this month. And while anons can't nominate, any registered user can (or you, if you register) -- Sorceror Nobody, 17:00, October 10, 2012 (UTC) I wouldn't recommend English, Doc Scratch, or Snowman until an ongoing issue with them is fixed. - The Light6 (talk) 23:25, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

December 2012

Ectobiology - The Light6 (talk) 23:27, November 1, 2012 (UTC) Dream bubbles - Aepokk Venset 03:43, November 4, 2012 (UTC) after I added the mechanics section, the article became really cleaned up Homestuck Adventure Game _☮__ƒelinoel___ 17:27, November 12, 2012 (UTC) Comments Another month where there's only one nomination. Not good -- Sorceror Nobody, 18:44, November 1, 2012 (UTC) If we ever make a Sandy article I would nominate that, just for support, but if not why not the Homestuck Adventure Game? _☮__ƒelinoel___ 18:55, November 1, 2012 (UTC) ...which would be completely the wrong reason to nominate an article. Not that there should ever be an article about the hurricane on this wiki unless for some reason Hussie decided to make it appear in an MSPA adventure. In a significant capacity. As for the AG, you're welcome to nominate it. Though tbh I have some slight issues with that article. Mainly that it's not about the AG so much as the Kickstarter, and really, the Kickstarter ought to have an article to itself, and the AG article be reserved for such a time as we actually, y'know, have info on the AG -- Sorceror Nobody, 22:36, November 1, 2012 (UTC) Yeah an article about the hurricane is really beyond the scope of this wiki. Also I have to agree, the Kickstarter and Adventure Game should be different articles and the Game article really is about the Kickstarter. Even if this was to be rectified right now the Adventure Game article wouldn't be Featured Article material, the Kickstarter might but not the game itself. Also nominating Ectobiology, I did a whole bunch of work cleaning that up a couple of months ago. - The Light6 (talk) 23:27, November 1, 2012 (UTC) I can't nominate twice, but what do you guys think of nominating the Aspect page? I think adding the color scheme layouts really improved upon it. Aepokk Venset 21:12, November 4, 2012 (UTC) Except Sandy was something that affected the webcomic, in that it stopped updates, anyways since there won't be an article I nominated my second choice I listed. _☮__ƒelinoel___ 17:27, November 12, 2012 (UTC) By that logic we need articles on every convention that Hussie went to that delayed him, as well as an article dedicated to the wait for Cascade. There is absolutely no sensible reason to have any article space devoted to a hurricane just because it happened to be tangentially involved in an MSPA-related issue -- Sorceror Nobody, 17:56, November 12, 2012 (UTC) First of all, it was already stated that there would be no article. Secondly, conventions are planned and not destructive. _☮__ƒelinoel___ 18:21, November 12, 2012 (UTC) Your wording strongly implied you still think there should be one, otherwise you wouldn't even have mentioned it. This is a fact I am stating for the record; I refuse to argue about this -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:50, November 12, 2012 (UTC) Not really, I was only replying to the responses to explain why I thought that. Not sure how you got that implication. _☮__ƒelinoel___ 15:10, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

January 2013

Equius Zahhak - nothing special about him, just a nice page. Chezrush {Talk} 21:24, December 19, 2012 (UTC) Class - recommended due to Bitterlime's wonderful new templates and The Light6's passive/active scale Aepokk Venset 22:48, December 19, 2012 (UTC) Alterniabound - The Light6 (talk) 18:03, December 23, 2012 (UTC) bitterLime 17:57, December 30, 2012 (UTC) Comments Just going to start this up so we have a featured article next month. Chezrush {Talk} 15:24, December 16, 2012 (UTC) I really can't support a nomination of English while the page has broken javascript, the featured article is something we want to show off, and much as there is a bunch of infomation, it still is broken. - The Light6 (talk) 15:31, December 16, 2012 (UTC) So that's happening to you too? --Chezrush {Talk} 15:45, December 16, 2012 (UTC) It's happening to everyone - Forum:Tabber broken - though until recently it only effect the Oasis skin (e.g. like 95% of the wiki's visitors) but it seems it has moved up to Monobook too. - The Light6 (talk) 15:55, December 16, 2012 (UTC) Except the tabber is still broken on his page. Someone simply removed the title template. - The Light6 (talk) 05:10, December 18, 2012 (UTC) Suggestion revoked Aepokk Venset 05:12, December 18, 2012 (UTC) How about we feature a problem sleuth related article for a change? Or do we want to stick featuring articles relating to the current adventure?bitterLime 21:35, December 19, 2012 (UTC) If you can find a Problem Sleuth article that's suitably impressive, feel free to nominate it. Aepokk Venset 06:47, December 21, 2012 (UTC) Crap I forgot I was going to reply to this. But yes, Problem Sleuth articles should be fine, and I would even recommend that one should be featured. However given that most of the articles are old they probably don't match current standards. If anyone can find a suitable one, or is willing to revamp one to make it suitable than feel free to suggest it. Speaking of revamping, I don't think my revamp of the sprite article will be done in time, though I did a bunch of work on the Alterniabound article yesterday, if I finish that off in time I might nominate that. - The Light6 (talk) 07:46, December 21, 2012 (UTC) Did an overhaul of Alterniabound so nominating that, it still needs a few touchups but they should be done by the end of the month. And with that there are three nominations and voting opens. - The Light6 (talk) 18:03, December 23, 2012 (UTC) On the Class article nomination, I am currently predicting some exposition on the Maid class (and its counterpart) in a week or two. So I guess it might be good to have it featured when that info is revealed, or it might be better to feature it next month instead of having a big shake up in the middle of the month. Of course that all depends on whether my prediction holds up (I am posting it on the Class talk page). - The Light6 (talk) 16:09, December 30, 2012 (UTC) I think class definetly deserves a feature, but I agree with the light6 that this month may be bad timing. Especially since we also might get to see the prince, rogue and page sprites soon, which would help giving the page a more unified look. So ideally I would like to feature class once that happened. - bitterLime 17:57, December 30, 2012 (UTC) All good points. Wouldn't want to rescind my nomination now though, as people have started voting. I suppose I'll just leave it up there. Or maybe change it? Aepokk Venset 22:19, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

February 2013

Doc Scratch - The tabber has been fixed, and it's a very informative and well-done page. Aepokk Venset 05:17, January 5, 2013 (UTC) Eridan Ampora - It would fit thematicaly (february - aquarius), and him being kinda prominent in the latest few updates as part of erisol --Bananadrama (talk) 07:39, January 22, 2013 (UTC) Sprite - Just completed a clean-up of the article. -The Light6 (talk) 13:53, January 22, 2013 (UTC) Warhammer of Zillyhoo - If you will notice the new Zillyhoo theme, you will see why I nominate this. _☮__ƒelinoel___ 19:07, January 23, 2013 (UTC) Comments The Sprite clean-up was just the information sections, not the tables, I intend to do those too but those are a small part and should easily be done before the end of the month. As such I am just going to nominate it now. - The Light6 (talk) 13:53, January 22, 2013 (UTC) Second half of the clean up is finished. I did attempt to make all the tables consistent with each other, on both Monobook and Oasis. While it isn't perfect it is close enough considering the restraints both the tables and the two skins cause. However I think I got close enough to make it no longer an issue and in doing so I think I made how it is displayed much more appealing. - The Light6 (talk) 16:50, January 24, 2013 (UTC) Once again it would appear that some nominations are being made for the wrong reasons. Not that those reasons are detrimental to a nomination, just that they should never be the main reason given. That said, Eridan is not a bad page by any means, and a bad nomination rationale doesn't invalidate the quality of a page. Warhammer of Zillyhoo, by contrast, is a pretty thin page; frankly, if it weren't for the fact that it originated from Problem Sleuth, it probably wouldn't warrant a page to itself – though it may yet be merged into Legendary weapons at some point, now that I think about it -- Sorceror Nobody, 13:47, January 29, 2013 (UTC) I like the idea of "thematic articles" since october, when one person suggested the ancestors because of them having 8 letters in their names and october being the 8th month. I didnt suggest Eridan just because its february, but because its a february and Eridan being a good page. I dont see anything wrong with that reasoning. --Bananadrama (talk) 22:13, January 30, 2013 (UTC) I'm aware of the thematic link in October, because that was me. And yes, it's fine. It's simply that your nomination solely mentioned thematic reasons; hence, I felt it prudent to emphasise that while the Eridan article does look pretty good, it'd be useful for that to be mentioned ahead of superficial stuff. An article should always be nominated purely on a quality basis, and if it just so happens to fit thematically, that's a nice bonus that may sway the votes between two otherwise equally good candidates. I hope that makes my point clearer -- Sorceror Nobody, 05:29, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

March 2013

Lil Cal – ha ha hoo hoo. Chezrush {Talk} 18:21, February 19, 2013 (UTC) Comments Well, I've just completed a very substantial rewrite of the Lil Cal article, and it is now almost perfectly fit for featuring. Ideally, it could do with a few more MSPA links, and possibly one or two well-chosen images, as well as a better image to replace the current one of Dirk's room. Other than that, it's good to go. Hee hee -- Sorceror Nobody, 02:35, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

April 2013

Cherub - In light of recent events Aepokk Venset 06:08, March 8, 2013 (UTC) -- Sorceror Nobody, 16:58, April 2, 2013 (UTC) John Egbert, the first character of Homestuck. To be noted, he was born on 4-13. Chezrush {Talk} 21:38, March 8, 2013 (UTC) Tavrisprite - A semi-serious nomination, nominating just to open up voting but it is short enough that if it becomes a serious contender that it is short enough clear up without too many issues. - The Light6 (talk) 11:25, March 26, 2013 (UTC) Comments A 413-themed suggestion might be nice, though as ever, it should not be the driving reason behind a nomination. That said, if anyone wants to do massive cleanup on John's article (and I do mean massive) over the next month, he may be a good choice. The 413 article is unlikely ever to look presentable enough for FA, as it's just a huge list -- Sorceror Nobody, 13:26, March 1, 2013 (UTC) Well it's now April. Any ideas? Aepokk Venset 03:07, April 2, 2013 (UTC) I believe as John wasn't brought up to scratch and Tavrisprite was a non-serious nomination by myself to open voting, which I did so SN could vote for cherub, which he never did, and since that is your nomination I doubt you will have a problem with that? - The Light6 (talk) 03:10, April 2, 2013 (UTC) Of course, I think it's a great page Aepokk Venset 03:29, April 2, 2013 (UTC) A vote for the Cherub page from me. I think it's a nice looking page with well written content. Rabbeseking (talk) 04:37, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

John Egbert --Chezrush {Talk} 16:35, July 10, 2013 (UTC) Mythological roles - Uhhh jeez, I guess this could work? I like the page but it's by no means "complete", and what would we do for the image? Aepokk Venset 03:08, July 11, 2013 (UTC) lp2277 | Talk 05:14, August 6, 2013 (UTC) Comments So, we had no nominations for featured articles last month. I'm wondering what the reason is: was the nomination and voting process not advertised enough, or are there just no other articles that currently qualify for featured article status? And in either case, how do we fix it? lp2277 | Talk 16:44, May 3, 2013 (UTC) I'm willing to bet that the hiatus is at least partially to blame. I don't know about bitterLime and TL6, but I know I've been checking up on the wiki less frequently the past few weeks. Aepokk Venset 16:54, May 3, 2013 (UTC) Yeah we seriously need to get on our game here, and replace that massively spoiler article. Aepokk Venset 18:52, June 2, 2013 (UTC) Changed it to August since obviously we're already past the start of July. Also since we're still getting blackout weeks as a tail to the megapause, it seems likely that we won't be back to full speed until near the end of this month anyway. So, FA will officially resume in August. Get nominating, people! -- Sorceror Nobody, 12:40, July 10, 2013 (UTC)' I just want to note that this is the first nomination in 3 months --Chezrush {Talk} 16:35, July 10, 2013 (UTC) Well if we wanted to be technical, the rules could be interpreted as talking about consecutive active months of FA nominations rather than chronologically consecutive months, which would mean you aren't allowed to nominate John again this month. But obviously we'll let it slide because it'd be pretty stupid to quibble on that after such a long gap :P -- Sorceror Nobody, 17:10, July 10, 2013 (UTC) ...okay so it would appear that all of the admins, myself included, forgot about updating the FA at the start of the month. So, everyone has until tomorrow to nominate another article, if they want to squeeze a nomination in at the last minute. And, what the hell, I declare voting open on these two, since it makes little difference to break that rule for less than a day -- Sorceror Nobody, 21:51, August 5, 2013 (UTC) See I thought we had decided on August, but assumed I was wrong if nobody else had mentioned it and thus totally dropped the ball on reminding anyone. Aepokk Venset 04:59, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

September 2013

Problem Sleuth (character)]] - technically this is the MSPA wiki, not just the Homestuck wiki and I feel like we should have some diversity. --Chezrush {Talk} 23:15, August 6, 2013 (UTC) Comments Ok this is getting pathetic. We really need to step our game up since everyone that enters the wiki will see this. Chezrush {Talk} 23:13, August 6, 2013 (UTC) And I agree with that. I would vote for yours right now honestly, it's a good article. But the rules and yeah. Also, I would nominate John, but there's the caveat of nominating two months in a row, or god tier, but it's extremely similar to the current featured article. I think we should focus this month on improving the quality of existing articles. Aepokk Venset 23:25, August 6, 2013 (UTC) If lp2277 and I can manage to make Going beyond the gameplay a respectable article over the next few weeks, I'm nominating it. Aepokk Venset 23:33, August 7, 2013 (UTC) Hm. I was entirely prepared, if somewhat resignedly, to accept the sole nomination for this month's FA, because obviously that's the protocol. But even just trimming the opening text for the FA template, I'm having to grit my teeth at the cleanup that text alone ought to have, to say nothing of the article as a whole. So I'm not sure it's entirely suitable FA material. I'm seriously in two minds on this. I think part of the reason we've had no non-HS featured articles, aside from the obvious one of popularity, is likely that the non-HS articles are severely under-maintained, despite – or maybe even because of – the fact that those adventures have ended : / -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:24, September 1, 2013 (UTC) EDIT: We may have to seriously consider making FAs be every two months, at least for a while. If we did so from the current state of things, we'd get... Aug, Oct, Dec, Feb, Apr, Jun, etc. Incidentally, that would have the amusing (but ultimately irrelevant) side effect of hitting the months for 4/13, 6/12 and 10/25 (though not 11/11, sadly) -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:30, September 1, 2013 (UTC) ANOTHER EDIT: In fact, it might be worth considering changing the FA system altogether, and just having a single list of all articles people believe to be nomination-worthy, and we have more substantive discussion on the merits or failings of each of them – which can of course change at any time as articles get cleaned up or become outdated or whatever – rather than a smattering of nominations with mostly just votes that is wiped clean every month. Though I guess we would probably still have to have votes, so as not to create a TYRANNICAL ADMIN DICTATORSHIP in selecting which nominee to use each month -- Sorceror Nobody, 20:37, September 1, 2013 (UTC) I think both of your proposals make a lot of sense and I'd like to see them implemented. lp2277 | Talk 21:20, September 1, 2013 (UTC) Proposed new system is here -- Sorceror Nobody, 13:56, September 2, 2013 (UTC)