For the post-scratch version of this character, see Jake English.
Not to be confused with Poppop.
Jake Harley


Grandpa no hat

Grandpa teen

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Slime Grandpa

He was so much easier to deal with when he was alive. Sburb Logo


Grandpa (by Jade Harley)
Pa (by Joey Claire and Jude Harley)
Hass "The Flame" Harley (fan name)


About 90. Birthdate is April 21, 1910. Deathdate is circa 2000, during Jade's early childhood

Strife Specibi

Presumably riflekind or pistolkind


Jake English - Post-scratch self
Jade - Adoptive granddaughter, genetic daughter
Grandma, Poppop, John - Genetic offspring
Nanna - Adoptive sister
Halley - Pet
Becquerel - Pet
Betty Crocker - Adoptive grandmother
A. Claire - Wife
Jude Harley - Son
Joey Claire - Daughter
Rose's Mom - Hired babysitter/Possible Employee

Live(s) in

A high-tech tower on a Pacific Island


Suits of armor, decrepit mummies, big game trophies, cerulean sunbleached photos of women, globes.

Jake Harley, more commonly known as Pa or Grandpa is Jade Harley and John Egbert's genetic father, Jade's adoptive grandfather, and the father of Joey Claire and Jude Harley. In his first appearance, he is shown to be dead and preserved by taxidermy.

Biography Edit

Childhood Edit

Halley and grandpa

Grandpa as a young boy.

While initially introduced as Jade's grandfather, he is actually a paradox clone of himself sent back in time as an infant. He also provided half of the DNA of both Jade and John which was combined with John's Nanna through Ectobiology. This action created an interesting paradox, with John creating both Jade's Grandfather and himself from the present and sending the clones as infants to their proper times.

Due to the events of The Reckoning Grandpa was sent from The Veil to Earth, where he accidentally shot, and killed, Colonel Sassacre, who was looking after the child version of Nanna. He then grew up as Nanna's adopted brother and Betty Crocker's adoptive grandson. Eventually he decided to leave to seek adventure with the Colonel's dog, Halley.

Adult LifeEdit

In Hiveswap it is revealed that he settled down with a woman named A. Claire and eventually fathered two children named Joey Claire and Jude Harley roughly 30 years before the events of Homestuck. They all lived together in the Half-Harley Manor, in a town called Hauntswitch. Roughly a decade before the events of Hiveswap in 1994, his wife passed away. He was often absent in his children's lives, and he and his daughter never saw eye to eye as he spent his time hunting animals when she wanted to care for them and become a veterinarian. Much to her disdain, Grandpa Harley filled Harley Manor with his taxidermy animal trophies from his hunts, along with portraits and statues of beautiful blue women. It is certain that he is a big game hunter, and possibly a poacher, due to the fact that there is a stuffed lion in his trophy room.

As Jade's Guardian Edit


Grandpa showing Jade the “joy of the hunt”.

When Betty Crocker mysteriously disappeared, Grandpa Harley inherited her baking empire. By this point Grandpa Harley was a renowned billionaire explorer and inventor. After a Skaian meteor carrying a baby Jade destroyed a Betty Crocker plant in John's town, he set off with his newfound shipmate to go plunder the secrets of a certain Pacific Island with interesting historical monuments. Despite currently being dead, stuffed, and on display in the house, Jade still avoids him, leery of any "confrontation", as though his being dead has not stopped him from lecturing her whenever she approaches his stuffed remains. She apparently finds these confrontations to be 'intense' as her grandpa is very strict and charismatic. He's prone to giving stern lectures to Jade whenever they meet and insists Jade carry a hunting rifle when she leaves the house, or else "there would be hell to pay." According to Jade, he was much easier to deal with when he was alive. Even the battle engine seemed confused, deeming their combat 'STRIFE?'. Grandpa Harley seems to suggest that Jade take a bigger and more effective gun before she goes outside to defend herself.

He decorated his house with multiple motifs, including suits of armor (including some more modern armors such those of Iron Man and the Judge), decrepit mummies, big game trophies, sunbleached photos of women (his 'beauties'), and globes. Though Jade doesn't mind the suits of armor, she hates the mummies and hunting trophies. Some of the big game trophies in Grandpa's tower appear to be chimeras, or combinations of different animals. Whether these are genetic experiments, mythical creatures, or terrible abuses of taxidermy is unknown. Notably, some of his trophies are the mounted heads of Underlings.

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Grandpa loved Jade, and is shown here crying when Jade's dreamself dies.

While at first it seemed that Grandpa was Jade's current guardian, he, like many things associated with Jade, is a bit of a pattern breaker and it has been revealed that he is dead and had been replaced by Becquerel.

According to Jade, Grandpa is an extreme polymath; he's a world-renowned explorer, naturalist, treasure hunter, archeologist, scientist, adventurer, big game hunter, and billionaire. This would explain the close proximity of ancient ruins to his house and having a laboratory. His renaissance man aspect may be the main contributor to the fact that both Jade and Dave Strider consider him to be a badass. However, his badassery did not prevent his death at the hands of Tavros Nitram. When the pistols Jade was playing with went off, Tavros communed with Bec and teleported the gun and bullets next to Grandpa, effectively saving Jade, but killing Grandpa.

He was then stuffed and set up infront of the fireplace, just like Poppop. Grandpa was originally a prime candidate for Jade's Kernelsprite, but John advised Jade against it before entering, as prototyping him would lead to a lot of the enemies having Grandpa's face. They were planning to prototype him after entering, but Bec warped Grandpa's body (along with the rest of the room's contents) into outer space so that he could prototype the Kernelsprite with himself. Grandpa's body remained in outer space until the universe was destroyed by Jack Noir.

In the Medium Edit


Grandpa's ship, used as transport through the Medium

In the Medium, a character with the same build and mannerisms saved John from a Tar Basilisk using an extremely powerful blunderbuss. This seems to correspond to the game trophies above the fireplace which included a crude ogre, two basilisks and another creature that Dad is later seen fighting. His purple and gold fireplaceSburb Logo also tie into the Weird plot shit, representing the kingdoms of Derse and Prospit, as well as the image of Jade in her dream self outfit crowning the fireplace.

Grandpa operates what appears to be a massive battleship, which he uses to traverse The Medium. After Jack Noir's rampage, he brings Dad and Rose's Mom to the ruins of the Skaian Battlefield and retrieves the body of Jade's dead dream self, which he stuffs, following a proud, if somewhat unsettling, family tradition. The stuffed dream Jade is displayed in one of the unvisited rooms in Jade's home, beside the fourth wall pilfered from Jack Noir's cubicle and a stuffed Halley.

In the post-scratch version of the kids' universe, it is later revealed that the Frog Temple had two hidden transportalizers. These lead to Prospit and Derse, based on their colorations. This would explain Grandpa's accessibility to the Medium, a secret long kept throughout the story, should these transportalizers exist in all instances of the temple itself. They would not account for the apparent time travel involved in the situation. It can, however, be assumed that Grandpa may simply have used the Lotus Time Capsule, or can be explained by the fact that the Medium's timeline doesn't match up with Earth's , as shown in [S] Dirk: UniteSburb Logo.

Relationships Edit

His relationship with Becquerel has never been stated, but Bec was presumably loyal to him and still sleeps at the feet of his stuffed corpse.

He has a strained relationship with his older children, Joey Claire and Jude Harley, particularly with Joey, due to his absence in their lives. Joey is strongly against her father's interests in hunting and taxidermy due to her love of animals.

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